Tao Speaks: Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom

Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom

Posted by Fastovsky on 1/15/2008, 4:56 pm, in reply to "pop recognition of ancient wisdom"
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"When I stop trying to control my mind - that verbose, paranoic old storyteller - my thoughts become clear and more intelligent."
...
And this runs directly counter to much "ancient wisdom!"
The "Diamond Sutra" begings by asking, amost other things, "how can I control my mind?" Indeed, meditation techniques are basically about controlling the mind. And it's not passive control, it's sitting on the mind and whipping it into shape!

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pop recognition of ancient wisdom - josef 1/15/2008, 2:34 pm
- Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Fastovsky 1/15/2008, 4:56 pm
  - Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - josef 1/16/2008, 8:09 am
    - Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Steve 1/16/2008, 8:56 am
      - conditional discharge - Lian Dao 1/16/2008, 9:26 am
        
        Re: conditional discharge - Steve 1/16/2008, 10:42 am
        
        ghosts in the machine or faces at the window? - Lian Dao 1/16/2008, 10:57 am
      - Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - josef 1/16/2008, 9:26 am
        
        correction - josef 1/16/2008, 9:29 am
        
        Re: correction - Steve 1/16/2008, 4:19 pm
        
        trusting experience - josef 1/17/2008, 9:05 am
        
        Re: trusting experience - gar 1/17/2008, 9:36 am
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Steve 1/16/2008, 3:24 pm
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - josef 1/17/2008, 9:18 am
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - gar 1/17/2008, 9:46 am
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - josef 1/17/2008, 11:10 am
        
        so long and thanks for all the fish - Lian Dao 1/17/2008, 11:27 am
        
        Re: so long and thanks for all the fish - Steve 1/17/2008, 11:42 am
        
        you say goodbye - Lian Dao 1/17/2008, 12:14 pm
        
        Re: you say goodbye - gar 1/17/2008, 2:03 pm
        
        i say hello - Lian Dao 1/17/2008, 2:23 pm
        
        Re: i say hello - gar 1/17/2008, 2:36 pm
        
        Re: i say hello - Steve 1/17/2008, 3:36 pm
        
        Re: i say hello - gar 1/17/2008, 3:46 pm
        
        Re: i say hello - Steve 1/17/2008, 4:05 pm
        
        i don't know why you say goodbye - Lian Dao 1/18/2008, 2:21 am
        
        Re: i don't know why you say goodbye - gar 1/18/2008, 5:18 am
        
        the difference between good and bad - Lian Dao 1/18/2008, 6:14 am
        
        Re: the difference between good and bad - gar 1/18/2008, 6:35 am
        
        Re: so long and thanks for all the fish - Wayne L 1/22/2008, 1:04 pm
        
        Party for your right to fight - Lian Dao 1/17/2008, 9:49 am
        
        Re: Party for your right to fight - Wayne L 1/21/2008, 11:17 am
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Steve 1/17/2008, 11:20 am
        
        not necessarily - rene 1/18/2008, 3:08 pm
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - dagmar 1/19/2008, 4:30 pm
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Chris 1/20/2008, 6:38 am
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Wayne L 1/21/2008, 10:46 am
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Chris 1/21/2008, 7:49 pm
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Wayne L 1/24/2008, 1:04 pm
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Wayne L 1/21/2008, 10:56 am
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - dagmar 1/19/2008, 4:18 pm
      - Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Wayne L 1/21/2008, 10:08 am
    - true mind, false mind - Lian Dao 1/16/2008, 9:20 am
      - Re: true mind, false mind - josef 1/16/2008, 9:56 am
        
        enter the matrix - Lian Dao 1/16/2008, 10:08 am
        
        Re: enter the matrix - josef 1/16/2008, 10:30 am
        
        Re: enter the matrix - Lian Dao 1/16/2008, 11:26 am
        
        Re: enter the matrix - Steve 1/16/2008, 3:55 pm
        
        go toward the light! - Lian Dao 1/16/2008, 4:15 pm
        
        Re: go toward the light! - Steve 1/16/2008, 4:40 pm
        
        ship of fools - Lian Dao 1/16/2008, 4:55 pm
        
        Re: Rent "The Matrix" - Fastovsky 1/16/2008, 6:22 pm
        
        Matrix Revolutions - Lian Dao 1/17/2008, 12:57 am
        
        Re: enter the matrix - Wayne L 1/21/2008, 12:20 pm
      - Re: true mind, false mind - Lian Dao 1/16/2008, 10:02 am
        
        Re: true mind, false mind - josef 1/16/2008, 10:32 am
        
        Re: true mind, false mind - Fastovsky 1/16/2008, 6:35 pm
        
        false true, true false - Lian Dao 1/17/2008, 12:50 am
    - Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Wayne L 1/21/2008, 9:29 am
      - Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - gar 1/21/2008, 10:30 am
        
        Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Wayne L 1/24/2008, 1:07 pm
  - Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Wayne L 1/21/2008, 9:17 am
- Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Chris 1/15/2008, 5:23 pm
- Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom - Steve 1/15/2008, 6:22 pm
  - Re: Civilized Insanuty - Fastovsky 1/15/2008, 8:24 pm
    - Re: Civilized Insanuty - Chris 1/15/2008, 9:16 pm
      - Re: Civilized Insanuty - Fastovsky 1/15/2008, 10:15 pm
    - either/or and/or - Lian Dao 1/16/2008, 9:47 am
    - Re: Civilized Insanuty - Wayne L 1/22/2008, 12:58 pm
  - Re: Who turned on the Light??? - Wayne L 1/22/2008, 12:23 pm
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--Previous Message-- : "When I stop trying to control my mind - : that verbose, paranoic old storyteller - my : thoughts become clear and more : intelligent." : ... : And this runs directly counter to much : "ancient wisdom!" : The "Diamond Sutra" begings by : asking, amost other things, "how can I : control my mind?" Indeed, meditation : techniques are basically about controlling : the mind. And it's not passive control, it's : sitting on the mind and whipping it into : shape! : : :

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