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Posted by Butch on 11/5/2007, 9:25 pm, in reply to "Re: The twinkle in a child's eyes."
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: I don't know if I can say what divine is. But I recognize it when I see it.
: I don't know how, I just do. It is something you just have to see for
: yourself. Kind of like a type of dog I have never seen before and yet I
: know it is a dog. Probably easier for me to say what is not divine. Cold
: blooded murder. Rape. Gassing Jews in extermination camps with Zyklon B.
: Getting naive young people to blow themselves up in the name of the
: "One" God. Hating all Muslims because of Osama bin Laden. Voting
: for George Bush twice. Things like that.
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: Well done. If I were to try to delineate what constitutes "Right
: View" and "Right Action" by describing what is the opposite
: of those things, I could never, never do a better job than you just did.
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: I don't believe in non-human intervention. The slightest scrap of positive
: evidence would change my mind, though. However, regarding the divine, if
: you call the opposite of what you listed above divine, I can go with that.
: Again, well done!
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: In your Way,
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: -J
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: Worth noting, I think, that all of those 'not divine' things are learned
: behaviors. Gassing people and blowing oneself up in a bus are not
: instinctual behaviors.
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: "In the pursuit of learning, every day something is acquired.
: In the pursuit of Tao, every day something is dropped."
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: Tao Te Ching (Feng/English trans.)
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Steven,
imo, this is the conditioning I have spoken to in other threads. It seems to me that much of the "World's" learning isn't really learning at all. That is, it isn't learning to think for oneself, but learning what to think. This is the unlearning I think the OldBoy was referring to. Unlearning what we have learned from others--family, society, and so on, by learning for ourselves. Direct experience isn't the best teacher, it is the only teacher. As we drop our conditioning the barriers that have been put in place between ourselves and the rest of existence begin to drop. Though each of us are unique, we are not separate. What Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh calls "Interbeing".
Butch
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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