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Re: Diorama for modern work crew on a ship
And “our father’s Navy” might not have been so great for many. During my father’s time (1952-80), racial integration became normalized, but not without resistance from some who longed for the “good ole days” (for whites that is). During my time (1982 to 2004), I served with no fewer than six other sailors who were gay. They couldn’t “come out,” but we all knew. I suspect my father served alongside gay sailors too, but was oblivious to the concept. In any case, a good sailor is a good sailor, regardless of their ethnicity, who they choose to love (or just “bang”), or even what their gender identity might be, IMHO. While I may not understand some of these issues (I’m trying), I also can’t get too worked up over it because it just doesn’t effect me.
They are definitely different, but at the same time I feel like the "This is not your father's Navy" philosophy is a bit overblown. No one was "out and proud" like this guy, but there was certainly tolerance for some cross dressing. The difference was that the "modern version" is an expression of identify whereas the Neptune ceremonies was an expression of humor and pride, in s sense.
I guess I was viewing a bit differently. I know the Line Crossing ceremonies had that sort of thing, but his just seems a tad different. I guess I mean the guys participating in those ceremonies didn't pursue that sort of thing outside the ritual. Those guys were wearing mops on their heads and it was pretty clear it was all a sham.
This....well...I don't know. I guess its a case of whatever floats one's boat (or ship in this case)
It sure isn't our fathers Navy.
I mean, other than frequency what's different? All of the Neptune ceremonies I've seen feature cross dressing accepted as normal.
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