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Posted by Mike Donegan on May 9, 2008, 7:44:56, in reply to "Re: The whole coastline of Staten Island on that side is littered with debris, piers and ships"
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I am sure the EPA would be all over them to clean up the site and I do not think it can be done. It is not just a matter of removing the ships - and I am sure there are many more that have sunk and we cannot see. They first have to be removed them with out spreading the contaminants further - bunker oil, lubricants and most importantly, lead based paint. Which means they also have to remove all of the soil under the ships and in the surrounding area. This would probably be a major-multi million dollar job. Why these people are allowed to operate is a mystery to me - it would have to be some back door politics or something.

We are have somewhat of problem here in CA on a smaller scale in Susuin Bay where the reserve ships are located, but non have sunk. Since they have aged so much and many go back to WWII the lead based paint is literally peeling off the ships and dropping into the water, creating an pollutant nightmare - no one can really figure out what to do as there are so many of them (about 50+ I think). The navy is not really pulling them at a fast pace for SINKEX - but they are pretty much junk by now except maybe for a few Ro/Ro ships and the IOWA.

I think in the case of Staten Island - it is just going to stay there - as I mentioned it is not just in that location but also along the coast line of the island

Don't want em to stay, won't let em move. - Jake May 9, 2008, 21:07:54
- I remember that and Hugh was excited that they gave him a piece of the paint n/t - Mike Donegan May 9, 2008, 22:34:14
  - Roger that. He's got a heck of a job doesn't he ? N/T - Jake May 9, 2008, 23:32:44
    - Great job, and he always gets so excited about things n/t - Mike Donegan May 10, 2008, 0:49:34

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--Previous Message-- : : : I am sure the EPA would be all over them to : clean up the site and I do not think it can : be done. It is not just a matter of removing : the ships - and I am sure there are many : more that have sunk and we cannot see. They : first have to be removed them with out : spreading the contaminants further - bunker : oil, lubricants and most importantly, lead : based paint. Which means they also have to : remove all of the soil under the ships and : in the surrounding area. This would probably : be a major-multi million dollar job. Why : these people are allowed to operate is a : mystery to me - it would have to be some : back door politics or something. : : We are have somewhat of problem here in CA : on a smaller scale in Susuin Bay where the : reserve ships are located, but non have : sunk. Since they have aged so much and many : go back to WWII the lead based paint is : literally peeling off the ships and dropping : into the water, creating an pollutant : nightmare - no one can really figure out : what to do as there are so many of them : (about 50+ I think). The navy is not really : pulling them at a fast pace for SINKEX - but : they are pretty much junk by now except : maybe for a few Ro/Ro ships and the IOWA. : : I think in the case of Staten Island - it is : just going to stay there - as I mentioned it : is not just in that location but also along : the coast line of the island :

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