Posted by zog
on July 3, 2009, 12:21 am, in reply to "Re: No point in worrying?"
The numbers don't add up. They never have. We are already bankrupt dealing with the retirement of the "greatest generation", the one before the boomers. After that, government and society as we know it is unsustainable, because it is based on an economic ponzi scheme that can't be maintained. I mean, shoot, look at California, the so called wealthiest most progressive state out there, bankrupt. That's a real in your face canary in the coal mine sorta gasping and reeling around right now.
It is simply impossible to have a viable economy when really only a small fraction of the population is engaged in true wealth production, and not pseudo wealth creation or busywork jobs or no jobs at all..
When the bulk of the population is retired (no longer producing wealth, if they ever did), or too young to work, or in government work (wealth governing and rearrangement), or receiving checks for some reason in the mail as a "job" (entitlements, pensions, whatever), or engaged in wealth service type jobs, etc, i.e., anything but wealth creation (not that we don't need some of those jobs, but they are predicated on a sufficient level of true wealth production , which is harvesting raw materials and making stuff from them, or ag, that's it), it becomes unsustainable. We crossed that line a LONG time ago now, and we can see the beginning of the harsher results. A casino is no replacement for the farm.ranch and factory. A casino with a huge expensive governing body over it is even less viable. A casino with a huge governing body over it, then 1/2 of those people retiring is less viable still...and so on. It's the old 6 whitehats in clean suits with clipboards and not shovels in their hands standing around the one grizzled yellowhat down in the hole in the street with the shovel..that just isn't going to work for very long as a viable business.
So my best guess, and what I have thought since I was thirteen when I wrote an essay on it (it had a profound effect on me to this day,the implications of it and the thought that not many people realized this or took the time to really think about it and take it seriously), the US demographic scene and some projections I made way back then is, I think my actual first geopolitical prediction..elimination.
The Great Cull.
They have to have plausible deniability though, so most likely it will be from a plague, a fast one or a stealthy slow one. (war is another possibility but I don't think quite yet, US great cull, then a war with China over global resources-they need all of them that exist on the planet, no exceptions, so they will fight eventually to make sure they get them)
Lately I think that right before the big elimination push will be the last huge ripoff of wealth, so those eliminated will be beggared first "legally". The latter-beggaring- is more or less happening now, both with the economic governmental rips in the headlines daily, along with endterm medical expenses, and for sure the boomer generation has just taken a huge hit, at least a rip in theory and in mass psychology, in what they thought were retirement savings, their stock portfolios and the worth of their abode, the two biggest nest eggs they have.
About a third to a half gone in 1.5 years according to a lot of reports, very generally speaking. And this is just the beginning of the big economic slide. Another near half a mil out of work this past month, too...
So, both your thoughts could be true near as I can see it, and will run concurrently, not either or. They don't mean to bump off everyone, just those not useful for being productive slaves. The "useless eaters".
The do it in the broiler houses here, at around week 2.5 they do a heavy cull of chicks who aren't growing fast enough, they have it set to the *day* when they want to harvest and the birds have to cross a minimum weight threshold, and they can tell by size at 2.5 weeks or so those that don't make the cut, so they are "useless eaters".
It's just numbers...and business.
And this similar situation with the general population *has* to happen before the unemployment rates and wealth destruction get much worse, else they chance an actual revolt that they couldn't control. I am sure if little old me can figger this out, they have wargamed it extensively using think tanks and supercomputers. they proly came to the same or similar conclusions, because anything else means "they lose", which is off the table as an outcome for "them".
So, let's just say times are dicey now a little...
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