Y'know, I am approaching 57 years of age, and I have to say that throughout my life I have had occassion to think back quite often to the times at Skinner's - and the memories of some of the men that took on handling that ignorant kid are quite amazing. I did not know Foxy except through his asst head, and in the CCF, neither did Wallace teach me, but was my CO as I made my way to CSM. But you are right I am sure that these relationships did profoundly effect the character of those that they brushed up against, and although many a schoolboy will not hesitate to trash their schoolmasters, I can't help but admit that if it weren't for them, I would not be quite the person I am today. Others that really affected me were Tony Holding, whose handle on teaching chemistry in my mind can never be surpassed - and without him I would never made Uni. Although Mr Shaw, or "Oscar" and Mr Goodale "Skullhead" between them had some very strange methods of getting the job done, they surely set me up for a study period in science that stood me well right through to my PhD studies long ago here in Canada. God bless 'em all.