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Are the presa canario and the Alano the same breed?
Posted by Javier on 20/6/2010, 3:38 pm
Are the Presa canario and the Spanish Alano the same breed with diffrent names?
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They are differente. As far as my research goes, this is the origin of the Alano Español:
As it is known, virtually all foreign peoples that didn’t speak Latin were considered barbarians by the Romans. Most of them were of Germanic origin, but the Alani was a tribe that had settled in the Caucasus region in the Caspian Sea area, and that was integrated by nomadic shepherds of warlike customs, who spoke the Iranian language, Indo-European. In this language the word Alano meant Aryan. The Alani have been described as tall, blond and tough and were feared by the Romans and the Parthians. The latter had built an empire in what is now Iran in the early years of our era, and both empires (Parthian and Roman) were attacked from time to time by barbarians Alani that was a hostile people, prone to looting.
In the year 370 BC the Alani were destroyed by the Huns and dispersed to various locations. Those who went to west (called Western Alani) allied themselves with the Suebi and Vandals, and other barbarian peoples of Germanic origin, seeking to invade Gallia (then a Roman province which, however, had already been under siege, as several Roman provinces more, by barbarian tribes for at least 150 years). Indeed, in 406 Alani crossed the Rhine and defeated the Franks who guarded the border, leaving death and desolation sequel. The barbarian allies crossed fast the Gallic border, leaving behind a trail of panic and looting. In late summer or early fall of 409 crossed the Atlantic side of the Pyrenees, virtually undefended. They had entered to Spain. But the spirit that animated them was not the same. The Suebi, sedentary people, looked for land and stability; Alani and Vandals seeking booty. It is speculated that their number was about 300,000 of which about 100,000 were warriors. The largest contingent of this figure corresponded to the Suebi. Local people, must have found shelter in the poor areas of the north, forming a heterogeneous population center dedicated to looting to survive and renamed Bagaudos. On the other hand, the Visigoths were there at the same time and created the kingdom of Tolosa, and being allied with Romans they were used by the Empire to fight the invading Alani and Vandals, by order of Roman Emperor Honorius. In the year 411, the Empire offered the barbarians an allied status in exchange for receiving federal land in Hispania. Accepted the proposal, the Suebi settled in the province Gallaecia, between the Minho and Duero, Asdingo vandals in the lands between Lugo and Astorga, Silingo vandals in Western of Betic province, between the Guadiana and Guadalquivir and Alani in the land between Avila, Salamanca, Plasencia and Toledo.
As the Suebi were seeking land, to obtain it they remained calm but the Vandals and Alans had other aspirations in conflict with peace. The Asdingos started a war with the Suebi that ended with Asdingos own defeat, so they migrated to the south with his cousins Silingos. Arrived there, the Vandals appointed an anti-emperor, forcing the Empire to intervene. The imperial troops were defeated (422), which, apart from other consequences, the vandals opened the possibility to occupy the ports of Andalusia, from which they engaged in piracy against Hispanic Levante, Balearic Islands and the Roman Africa.
The Alani joined the Vandals, and offered the crown to Vandals king, Gunderic, who then governed as sovereign over both peoples (Vandals and Western Alani) and moved forward together to conquer north Africa in the year 429, where they took the grain trade in the area. Thereafter, the Vandals and Alani history intertwines.
Now, the Alani were accompanied by their dogs that used to guard their livestock and fight along with them in war. Since the Alani livestock consisted mainly of sheep, it seems clear that their dogs did not engage in catch cows and semi-savage bulls activity. However, some argue that the Alani came to be known later by his massive hunting (especially bears) and their fighting dogs (which introduced to Europe).
It is noteworthy that the temperament of a guard dog is more akin to what may be useful for war, but completely different to that required for catching semi-wild cattle or for hunting wild boar (catch dog). The guard dog is a dog confident but suspicious and aggressive toward strangers, able to fight off the predators that lurk in cattle, therefore, not a catch dog. On the other side, the hunting dog and eventually also the catch dog are not aggressive nor suspicious of strangers because they are in constant contact with other hunters and generally with people outside their own. Therefore, the catch dog in both types the kind needed to work with cattle as well as the lightest, appropriate to the boar hunting, must be type of later development following the customs of the peoples that have been formed in the course the centuries and that has little to do with the customs of the ancient Alani. Moreover, crossbreeding with other local dogs (greyhounds for example) was forging the Spanish Alano, best known for its qualities of prey (catch) than for their ability (which of course is not denied) as watchdog.
Hugo
Re: Are the presa canario and the Alano the same breed?
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And this is the origin of the Perro de Presa Canario:
The Canarian archipelago consists of seven islands that now, together, are called the Canary Islands. Some argue that the Island (Great) Canaria is so named because the local tribesmen were called canaries. However, it is unclear who provided the name who. I mean if Canaria Island was called to adopt the name given to its inhabitants, or rather its aborigines were called canaries in response to the name of the island. Another view among the most accredited theories, although not without controversy, is that the name of the Canary Islands was due to the existence of large "canis" among it fauna. Whatever the real story is, there is no discussion among historians in the sense that the islands now known as Gran Canaria and Tenerife, were populated by dogs, a lot of them wild, but all of small size (which serves to weaken the second argument put forward about the origin of the name of the archipelago). For example, in his book General History of the Canary Islands, Agustín Millares Torres tells old versions according to which, referring to Canaria, note that "... there are pigs, sheep and goats and wild dogs that seem to wolves, although small ... " The chaplains of the conqueror Juan de Bethencourt also allege that the dogs of Canary "... were wild dogs like wolves, but they are small.". As we all know, to conquer the island arrived Gadifer Juan de Bethencourt and La Salle in July 1492 and on arrival they found in the place aboriginal dogs small as the ones mentioned.
But the conquerors did not arrived alone, they invaded the islands, as they did a little later in America, accompanied by dogs of war that were mostly Spanish Alano. These Alanos were very agile dogs, of medium size but very strong and with powerful jaws as their primary function was to serve as catch dogs for semi-savage livestock, for big hunting and to guard the livestock. Given the great value and courage of these dogs, whose ancestors carried blood of warriors (remember that war dogs called Alanos served to the tribes of the Alani invading Spain in 406 aC), they were used by the Spanish conquerors in every adventure of conquest.
These dogs settled in the new territories of the conquered archipelago, and performed the same functions they performed in the country of origin. Above all, used by farmers and butchers to catch cattle (bull dog). From the mixture of these war dogs brought to the Islands by the Spanish conquerors, and the aboriginal dogs of the islands it was formed by natural selection a catch dog of medium size but very robust, with large head and powerful bite. But also, his tenacity, his agility, his courage and daring and powerful bite makes them ideal for dog fights, as indeed occurred for centuries.
The existence of aboriginal dogs of the islands, by the way, is clearly documented. In 1516 it was ordered the extermination of wild dogs for the damage they caused to livestock, a task to which they used a pair of catch dogs owned by Don Pedro de Lugo, trained for that task. Later, several similar orders were progressively given, which shows the many dogs (and catch dogs) that existed in the islands. For example, on February 19, 1618 it was ordered to chain all dogs, and on October 21, 1624 it was ordered that any neighbor can only have one dog for guarding his home. In 1630 it was ordered that anyone who has a catch dog should communicate to the authority. And in 1645 it was ordered again to kill all the dogs on the island for the damage they caused to cattle.
Moreover, following the conquest of America, the cultivation of sugar cane experienced the competition from the Caribbean sugar cane so that in the Canary field started to cultivate grapes and start a new relationship trade; England became the major buyer of the new product. The presence of English traders began in the late fifteenth century and gradually increased until the end of 1700. These traders arrived in the Canaries with their dogs that also gave their blood to the existing dogs. The new comers also inaugurate a new activity or "entertainment" hitherto unknown in the islands: the dogfight. To all this range of canine blood it was added the blood of Bardino Majorero (aboriginal from the Isle of Fuenteventura), dog prized in the islands for his courage, his ability to work with semi savage livestock and his great capacity as a guard dog.
Thus as the result of this great mixture of bloods the Presa Canario was formed. The type, as with all dogs in ancient times, is not that uniform because the crossing will be mainly concerned with functionality rather than aesthetics.
However, prohibited the fights of dogs around the 1940s (although they remain until the 1950s), the same reasons that led to near-extinction to Spanish Alano, a similar phenomenon occurred in the Presa Canario dog around 1960. As a result, since 1970 began a "recovery" slowly but surely leading to the "renewal" of this extraordinary breed.
It is a dog of medium stature, but powerful, with a solid temperament, self-confident and valuable. It is an intelligent animal that has a suitable profile for use as personal protection dog, a task which is not uncommon to see him in. For example, the Red Star kennel, is specialized in Presa Canarios dogs for personal protection training. There are still, even though counted with the fingers of one hand, lines of Presa Canarios that are proven gladiators. In recent years, the Presa Canario was recognized (and is now on probation) by the FCI based in Belgium, of which Spain, as over a hundred other countries are, is a part. The name under which it has been recognized by the FCI is not Presa Canario but Dogo Canario, which has already caused great discontent, and polemics among breeders, owners and fans to the point that today both names are used but with different characteristics.
Unfortunately as with all working breeds, the commercial factor, money and personal interests end up ruining the breeds that quickly become dysfunctional and figures without temperament, which are sold only by aesthetics and fashion. This problem has not been outside the Presa Canario so before buying a pupy must be careful to select a breeder who breeds with working lines (which are few).
I hope you now have a more clear idea about both breeds. Sorry about my poor English.
Hugo
Re: Are the presa canario and the Alano the same breed?
There is some theory that the original foundation dog was in both the Alano and the Presa, in that they are both Spanish breeds. They probably share a common bully-mastiff indigenous ancestor. However, most would not term them the same breed in this day and age.
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