| Re: Presa/Dogo
Posted by Dogodame on October 26, 2009, 6:43 pm, in reply to "Re: Battle of Atlanta Protection Tournament"
To understand what Curto says, you have to know a bit about him. He was originally involved in the recovery, and many dogs descend from what he OWNED (please note, most of the credited dogs he got from someone else). Curto is not a "joiner" in any part of his life, as he has been kicked out of every club he got involved in (the Spanish GSD, although from his website I see he is back into breeding them on his own, the Spanish cow he got involved in "resurrecting", as well as the Majorero). Basically he is a Megalomaniac who only hears himself, and he is the only ever right one...
But, as to the Dogo being bigger heavier with longer muzzles/ and the presa being I guess the opposite..that is all breeding fad. If you go through the standards- the FCI and the RSCE from 89, you will see most of the "changes" are minimal and basically just different phrasings. They are not a totally different dog. You've seen my dogs..as I said several went to bed presas and woke up Dogo's. I do not breed to the extreme look. You can also look at my friend www.realpresa.com for her working "Dogos".
However, there are non-standard dogs on each side of either standards...this happens in ANY breed, as fads in breeding come and go. There are "presas" that are too tall and skinny like Great Danes for the standard they are supposedly bred to, but if they can "work" on a sleeve in their backyard, then they are excused by those who push the "presa vs Dogo" debate. Even some of Curto's own dogs on his website measure up more to his concept of a "Dogo" then "presa"...see Niclas and Aruba for 2 examples. Niclas is short and heavy with a pitbull head, and Aruba is taller but just as heavy with a bullmastiff head with short muzzle. Unfortunately I don't think much of someone who says one thing, but breeds another.
The AKC FSS has been registering the presa since it first made it's way over in the early 90's. Unfortunately a lot of the info they have on the breed is WRONG, written by early breeders who bascially owned bandogges and continued to breed what THEY thought the breed should look like. It wasn't until 1997 that the club I belong to was formed, and anyone even bothered to contact and work with the official Spanish/Canarian breed club. The only benefit I could see to AKC at this time would be #1- legal protection; the AKC is very good at throwing it's legal teams at any breeds it registers in cases of BSL and #2-Breeder accountability. Unfortunately last week was a very bad week as I heard several complaints against some US breeders. Since we are not unified, and there is not one governing body and many breeders just drift on their own, there is no one to be accountable to...My club has put up a Better Breeder section for praise and complaints against breeders, but many people are too scared to post there knowing the breeder will probably not go any further with them after they take that step...
Now, aren't you sorry you asked me 
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