The "Old Guys" here live in the past and don't want change of any kind. All they see is we have laws and regulations in place and they don't work. Most people want change if something doesn't work. As far as Obama, I don't know why he even comes up anymore. He is out of office soon and then some other pawn will be in office. The old guys here wont like that President either. I listen to everyone's input and refrain from nastiness but as you can read a few people here simply cannot do that. They just cant be civil to anyone whose ideas and opinions dont match up to theirs. Have a great night!!