Re: parentage of imperial princess Miyeko Arisugawa?
Posted by Steve on 12/1/2008, 3:00:10, in reply to "Re: parentage of imperial princess Miyeko Arisugawa?"
I have been trying for a long time to find a genealogy of the Emperors for the 1700's & early 1800's with names and dates of their wives and children. Would you know if there is such a genealogy? |
: Mieko was the daughter of Arisugawa no Miya
: Takehito and his wife Yasuko Maeda.
: Takehito was the younger half-brother of
: Arisugawa no Miya Taruhito Shinno (NB not
: Tomohito – there was no prince of that name
: in the House of Arisugawa). Both were sons
: of Arisugawa no Miya Takahito Shinno
: (1812-1886). Taruhito was the eldest (by
: Yuko Saeki, d 1841), Takehito was the 4th
: and youngest (by Noriko Mori, d 1902).
: Adoption by members of the Imperial Family
: was forbidden by the Imperrial House Law of
: 1889 so when Takehito died in 1913, having
: outlived his only son Tanehito O
: (1887-1908), the Arisugawa no Miyake
: officially became extinct. However in July
: 1913 Emperor Taisho gave his 3rd son
: Nobuhito the title Takamatsu no Miya,
: Takamatsu being the original name of the
: Arisugawa no Miyake. Nobuhito in due course
: married Mieko’s daughter Kikuko.
: NB The spellings “Miyeko” and “Mayeda”
: following a transliteration system no longer
: is use. The current forms are Mieko and
: Maeda. Also, one of the previous postings
: mentions “Princess Isako Miyeko Arisugawa
: Fumi-no-Miya”. Isako was actually Mieko’s
: elder sister (born 17 Oct 1885; died 30 Sept
: 1886). I have found no Arisugawa princess
: (or prince) with the title Fumi no Miya
: although Nobuko Naishinno (1891-1933) did
: have this title.
: --Previous Message--
: Princess Isako Miyeko Arisugawa Fumi-no-Miya
: was the daughter of prince Takehito and
: Yasuko Mayeda. Her daughter princess Kikuko
: married prince Takamatsu, brother of
: empereur Hiro-Hito.
: --Previous Message--
: Miyeko Arisugawa (1891-1933) married prince
: Yoshihisa Tokugawa.
: genealogy edited by Jeffrey Taliaferro
: gives Miyeko's parentage as imperial prince
: Takehito Arisugawa (1862-1913) and Yasuko
: Maeda (1864-1923)
: genealogy edited by Henry Soszynski
: gives Miyeko's parentage as prince Tomohito
: Arisugawa (1854-1895) and Tadako Mizoguchi
: It looks like Tomohito Arisugawa and
: Takehito Arisugawa were half-brothers. The
: latter survived his brothers, and became
: Head of the shinnoke house of Arisugawa, an
: imperial prince.
: These two genealogies contradict each other;
: the conflict exists because no one can have
: two pairs of biological parents. I am
: interested in getting to know who were
: Miyeko Arisugawa's biological parents.
: In Japan, siblings and nephews relatively
: often got adopted by brothers and uncles
: (within-family adoption). For example, to
: organize the line of succession.
: It may very well be that one of these two
: parentages in fact were an adopted parentage
: of Miyeko. The problem is that on basis of
: these two conflicting sources, it is not
: obvious nor known, who of them were the
: biological parents.
: Does anyone know who were biological parents
: of Miyeko Arisugawa?
: And, what is reliable source of that?