Posted by DT 2. Since I will not graduate for a couple of years is there possibility of more schools opening in the country? Maybe the OH, KY area. Thank you.
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Posted by DT on September 11, 2007, 5:29 pm, in reply to "Schools"
192.223.163.5Thank you for your responses. I am excited to have found another route for something I desire. - Re: Schools
Posted by DC on September 8, 2007, 5:46 am, in reply to "Schools"
198.22.21.50Hi DT, Just as NeuroQueen has answer you question. BSN degree(nurses)can apply to AA school(Anesthetist program). Or any other Bachelors degree can apply to AA school. For example, you can have a Bachelors degree in Biology major(4 years)and have a Associate degree in nursing(2 years). And still can apply to AA school. Or vise versa you can have a Bachelors Science in Nursing(4 year degree) and can apply to AA school.
I think the bottom line is what will make you happy, what anesthetist program you will get the most out of AA-C or CRNA?. How fast do you want to become a Anesthetist. Going the AA-C route have been shown to be a faster route. With out all the hoops and loops you have to go through just to become an CRNA.
I have a lot of R.N.s who I consider some of my closest friends we hang out together a lot. Most of them tell me It's so hard or to hard to get into a CRNA program. I believe that's why a lot of BSN(nurses)are looking at another option and are applying to AA school(Anesthetist program). they don't have to go through all the hoop and loops when applying to AA school.
True BSN(nurses)may or will have to take some additional courses, like Physics with lab,Calculus,or Organic Chem. with lab. If they do not already have those courses.
When applying to AA program It's premed courses you have to take or already have. This is what every medical doctor have to take too(premed courses).
In closing no disrespect, but I notice with the CRNA programs from my research. They want to make it seem like your applying to a medical school to become a Doctor(MDA)or an AA-C(Anesthesiologist Assistant Certified Anesthetist) In reality their not(CRNA). It is still consider nursing.
AA-Cs is consider Medical(Medicine)they attend a Medical school environment or School of Medicine. Which they are taught by a Board Certified Anesthesiologist(MDA)self explanatory(which mean they are strong anesthetist AA-C). AA-C is not consider nursing. AA-Cs must take the MCAT or GRE.
CRNAs is consider nursing they are taught in a nursing school enviornment(School of Nursing). Even if they attend or are taught at a medical school it is still consider nursing(Not medicine). CRNAs must take the GRE or MAT(Not the MCAT)wich stands for (Medical College Admission Test). Which every Medical Doctor have to take when applying to a Medical school or school of Medicine. And AA-Cs too(MCAT). CRNAs do not take the MCAT.
Which ever road you decide to take DT I wish you all the best and may you become a superb anesthetist whether your a AA-C or CRNA.
I hope I've answer your question.
- Re: Schools
Posted by pete
on September 7, 2007, 9:20 pm, in reply to "Schools"
75.63.244.212Why would you limit yourself to work in only a few states after AA school, when a CRNA can practice in all 50 states. You will have your BSN anyway, and if the CRNA and AA scope of practice are basically the same why would you go the AA route. - Re: Schools
Posted by DC on September 8, 2007, 7:21 am, in reply to "Re: Schools"
198.22.21.50Hi pete Why would you even tell DT something like that? It has nothing to do with limiting yourself. It's about which route is going to suit him/her best.
Or how fast they want to become a Anesthetist. True AAs/AA-Cs can not work in all 50 states now. But I'm sure that will change sometime in the future as more laws and legislation open the doors for AAs/AA-Cs practice.
AAs/AA-Cs now work in nearly 20 states now from only 2 states nearly 40 years ago. What does that tell you?. As the years progress AAs/AA-Cs will be able to work in more states. Why do you hate AAs/AA-Cs so much?. What did they do to you?(AA-Cs) for you and your CRNAs colleagues to have so much animosity and hatred towards them?. I would like to know please explain.
If your the same person I spoke to on August 6,2007 the topic was about Autonomy CRNA vs AA or vise versa AA vs CRNA. You told me that CRNAs were training and teaching Anesthesiologist Assistant students(AA-S) at South University. And I reply by saying and your point is? I said I think It's great that CRNAs are teaching AA-S and SRNA as well.
I also stated that AA-C can and do train or teach R.N. students(SRNA) who went the AA route and AA-S(students)both. You also stated that AA-Cs can not train or teach SRNA(CRNA students). You also told me if you were incorrect to please post the information. sorry to have disappoint pete.
AA-Cs can train or teach SRNA students(CRNA)FACT. This particular AA-C is teaching and training CRNA students(SRNA). AA-Cs can also train and teach AA-S(students)FACT. Hears your information. Please read this story.
http:/www.anesthetist./org/content/blogcategory/16/30/ Topic How to hire an Anesthesiologist Assistant
by Al Rothein click on read more: Or you canClick on Re: Best way to overcome resistance with CRNA or hospital to hire AAs for open position. Go down to #3 click on AL August 26,2007 @8:47pm. this is on the AA Message Board page 1
This is what I call Perseverance not giving up or not letting politics get in the way. Which in this case it did. But it didn't stop him from getting in and working in an all CRNA practice group. This AA-C is the first in Florida to do this from my understanding.
There's another AA-C here in Texas also working with an all CRNA practice group. There are 7 CRNAs and 1 AA-C with a Master Medical Science in Anesthesiology(Anesthetist))FACT. The bottom line pete It's about patient first. Always remember that or have you forgotten?. For once put your ego and ignorance to the side and focus on what's best and important for the patient. I hope you and your CRNAs colleagues will learn something after reading this story. Whether you and your CRNAs colleagues like it or not AAs/AA-Cs are here to stay. Their not going any where no time soon. AAs/AA-Cs are not your problem so why keep bashing and disrespecting them?. Have a good day pete
Link: http://www.anesthetist.org//content/blogcategory/16/30/
Post a Response - Re: Schools
Posted by DC on September 8, 2007, 7:17 am, in reply to "Re: Schools"
198.22.21.50Hi pete Why would you even tell DT something like that? It has nothing to do with limiting yourself. It's about which route is going to suit him/her best.
Or how fast they want to become a Anesthetist. True AAs/AA-Cs can not work in all 50 states now. But I'm sure that will change sometime in the future as more laws and legislation open the doors for AAs/AA-Cs practice.
AAs/AA-Cs now work in nearly 20 states now from only 2 states nearly 40 years ago. What does that tell you?. As the years progress AAs/AA-Cs will be able to work in more states. Why do you hate AAs/AA-Cs so much?. What did they do to you?(AA-Cs) for you and your CRNAs colleagues to have so much animosity and hatred towards them?. I would like to know please explain.
If your the same person I spoke to on August 6,2007 the topic was about Autonomy CRNA vs AA or vise versa AA vs CRNA. You told me that CRNAs were training and teaching Anesthesiologist Assistant students(AA-S) at South University. And I reply by saying and your point is? I said I think It's great that CRNAs are teaching AA-S and SRNA as well.
I also stated that AA-C can and do train or teach R.N. students(SRNA) who went the AA route and AA-S(students)both. You also stated that AA-Cs can not train or teach SRNA(CRNA students). You also told me if you were incorrect to please post the information. sorry to have disappoint pete.
AA-Cs can train or teach SRNA students(CRNA)FACT. This particular AA-C is teaching and training CRNA students(SRNA). AA-Cs can also train and teach AA-S(students)FACT. Hears your information. Please read this story.
http:/www.anesthetist./org/content/blogcategory/16/30/ Topic How to hire an Anesthesiologist Assistant
by Al Rothein click on read more: Or you canClick on Re: Best way to overcome resistance with CRNA or hospital to hire AAs for open position. Go down to #3 click on AL August 26,2007 @8:47pm. this is on the AA Message Board page 1
This is what I call Perseverance not giving up or not letting politics get in the way. Which in this case it did. But it didn't stop him from getting in and working in an all CRNA practice group. This AA-C is the first in Florida to do this from my understanding.
There's another AA-C here in Texas also working with an all CRNA practice group. There are 7 CRNAs and 1 AA-C with a Master Medical Science in Anesthesiology(Anesthetist))FACT. The bottom line pete It's about patient first. Always remember that or have you forgotten?. For once put your ego and ignorance to the side and focus on what's best and important for the patient. I hope you and your CRNAs colleagues will learn something after reading this story. Whether you and your CRNAs colleagues like it or not AAs/AA-Cs are here to stay. Their not going any where no tome soon. AAs/AA-Cs are not your problem so why keep bashing and disrespecting them?. Have a good day pete
Link: http://www.anesthetist.org//content/blogcategory/16/30/
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Posted by NeuroQueen
on September 7, 2007, 9:16 pm, in reply to "Schools"
71.60.86.104Hi DT, To answer some of your questions: BSN degrees are excepted into the programs like any other Bachelors degree. As far as will more AA programs open in different states.... I am sure that there will be. How many ans when is a whole other matter.
As far as the state of OH is concerned, there is an AA program at Case Western Univ. in Cleveland,OH.
As far as KY is concerned.... I don't know if KY will EVER have an AA program until the reduce the strict laws that AA's have to abide by in that state.... In KY an AA has to also have a Physician Assistant degree in order to practice. That is absolutely wrong!! So in essence you have to have 2 master degrees to practice there... thats the only state that does that....Anway, hope I answered your questions enough to help you in your decision making for your future...
