Posted by Curt Eckroth on July 24, 2008, 6:01 pm |
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Posted by Jackson Lee on July 24, 2008, 10:06 pm, in reply to "what if ?? 319#"
160.93.10.138I'm on the other side of this one. I appear on the same list one spot just above you, but I want EVERYBODY to be there ! I want to train my tail off and bring everything that I have to offer and see where I stand.
At this stage of my career the only way that I will beat a Dan Corridean is that I have my best day and he has his worse. That's not what I want. I want everyone to be at their best and let the chips fall where they may. There will be plenty of other opportunities for balanced competition, but at a National Championship (which is where this is most likely to occur) I want to be in the mix with the best!
Besides, if I'm ranked 6th, then I'm going after 5, 4 and 3 !!!! I'm gonna get somebody
That's how you compete.
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Posted by Curt Eckroth on July 24, 2008, 11:41 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
216.193.136.69I'm not a 319lb anymore so I don't have to deal with that. I can go after 275 if I was up to it.
All I can say is that you do what you can, but if the majority of the weight class always gets smoked by an elite, then as a class 1, I would suggest separate awards for that category. I was suggesting another means of weight category challenge and or meet contest that is all.
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Posted by Ronald W Jeffery on July 25, 2008, 2:15 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
4.155.84.159Years ago there were novice meets for lifters that had never placed, 1st 2nd or 3rd. There were also junior meets for lifter who had never placed 1st. Maybe this would be something Big Al could work into the schedule, in the future. I believe this would encourage a lot of beginners to begin competing. Once you have placed 1st in a junior meet, you are now a senior lifter and will have to compete against anyone who comes along including the elite lifters. One more thing. Years ago most elite lifters competed as an extra lifter not actually in the contest. The competition they went to was state and national level meets. They have every right to enter local meets, though. Al, I'm not trying to make more work for you but, there seemed to be an interrest in more meets. This might be a way to help. - Re: what if ?? 319#
Posted by Curt Eckroth on July 24, 2008, 9:38 pm, in reply to "what if ?? 319#"
216.193.136.69I see by no responses that this is a topic that needs to be addressed. For example according to the raw classification system I would be ranked in between classes. I should not have to compete against an elite lifter, the outcomes have been ridiculous. Maybe I'm talking to myself, but 20 of you viewed my original post. This is only my opinion, but other organizations have a ranking system and award meets accordingly. - Re: what if ?? 319#
Posted by Rich Hutchison on July 25, 2008, 12:29 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
68.34.18.201If you place 7th in that list, you're a good lifter and should be proud of yourself.
But I'm with Jackson Lee on this issue. No one likes losing by 300#, but the fact is that there is often someone out there who is that much better than most of us.
All you can be is the best you can be.
Al's fantasy powerlifting scenario is interesting, but it is just for fun, since it's highly unlikely that a significant portion of that whole lot will ever show up at the same time, so the field is always narrow. We never know how many of those guys are still competing, let alone hurt, or unable to participarte for any number of reasons.
Bottom line is that I disagree that there should be classes or divisions for different levels of lifters. Sounds like a nightmare to me. Maybe we could do that if powerlifting were an extremely popular and competitive sport, but there are so many weight classes
and age groups now that there is very little competition in most meets. Adding an
additional dimension to the structure would guarantee that almost everyone would
be competing only against himself, which is really what it's all about anyway.
The only difference would be that Al would have to make even more trophies.
Having said that, there are some people that I hope never show up at any of my meets.
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Posted by Ronald W Jeffery on July 25, 2008, 1:01 am, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
4.155.72.33Curt, you might not know it but your best powerlifting years are still ahead of you. If you have no health issues and are willing to do the work it is quite possible that you can be an elite lifter, one day. Try not to over train and try to be patient. It doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen. Good luck - Re: what if ?? 319#
Posted by Curt Eckroth on July 25, 2008, 11:39 am, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
216.193.136.69Thanks for the positive feedback it means a lot. - Re: what if ?? 319#
Posted by AY on July 25, 2008, 4:03 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
74.78.230.13Is it all about the trophey? Compete to get a PR, thats what its all about. Would you rather get a 1st place and not hit any PR's or get 8th place and get 3PR's? I think this sport is about competing against yourself. Lets face it god didn't create all of us equal, but busting your ass and "being all you can be" is what its all about. - Re: what if ?? 319#
Posted by Bill Ogden on July 30, 2008, 10:57 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
207.255.159.12From observing meets over time, it appears to me not to be the weight but the span of years one competes and the adversities one overcomes. Big Al, Bugs, Joe, Nick and others hit PRs and win titles, but I'm impressed with how LONG they've been doing it. Yes, I have total goals and lift goals, but I believe the most important is the ability to keep on keepin' on; right Al? - Re: what if ?? 319#
Posted by Curt Eckroth on July 26, 2008, 9:39 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
216.193.136.69No its not all about a trophy. I could care less if I get one at a meet. I competed in one several no award meets. Its about the intrinsic reward of knowing you did your very best and if win or loose is not the point. I was making the statement of simply getting out classed by same lifters repeatedly. Now that that person(s) hasn't competed in this organization this year, its no longer an issue. - Re: what if ?? 319#
Posted by Jackson Lee on July 25, 2008, 9:45 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
209.240.207.73
AY, as my grandaddy use to say "Boy you shuckin corn now!"
I agree bro.
A new Personal Best over a trophy any day. - Re: what if ?? 319#
Posted by Curt Eckroth on July 26, 2008, 9:40 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
216.193.136.69I agree as well, point well taken. - Re: what if ?? 319#
Posted by Rich Hutchison on July 26, 2008, 12:32 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
68.34.18.201JL... Your grandaddy was cool.
May I borrow his expression?
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Posted by Jackson Lee on July 27, 2008, 1:31 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
160.93.19.186Go ahead Rich, I've been "borrowing" his stuff for years
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Posted by dan on August 19, 2008, 10:32 pm, in reply to "Re: what if ?? 319#"
4.238.231.36319 that is a warm up set for me