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Re: DD Somers
Posted by Jim Davis on 12/2/2018, 9:29 am, in reply to "Re: DD Somers
On closer inspection I see what Akos means. The gun ports do extend higher than you currently have them, and the front fascia of the turrets is much less rounded. But on looking this morning at photos of Somers and her sister ships, there ALSO seems to be - at least on the forward 5" mounts - a polygonal structure on their starboard side covering roughly the bottom right 1/4 of the side of the mount... there is NOT a similar feature on the port side. There were no good photos I could find of the latter mounts to indicate one way or the other whether this feature was present. I suspect this is space taken up by motors for gun elevation, but that's just a guess. Also - it looks like the barrels of the 1.1" AA mounts are represented by a slab. Will you be able to print distinguishable barrels for them?
It is right the gun ports should be more rectangle.
It seems also that The turret itself should not be rounded at the front side.
The position of the hull number is definitely wrong.
The "printing artefacts" are support structures - necessary for the 3d printing process and easily to remove.
Thank you all for your feedback!
It is really helpful to discuss it with you.
when i design a model I try to make it as carefully as possible but I have always some "invisible" errors that are obvious to to anybody else ...
pls check the pics. Although the m,ount was not DP capable, it still had an elevation of 35 deg. and the gun ports reached up until the split line between face and roof front plate (see attached pic). It is not to say that the model is bad, but this aspect IMHO is not represented entirely correctly, the turret feels much more rounded and the gun ports square like instead of a vertical rectangle.
Just my 0.02 cents :)
Actually, both look pretty much right to me. The dual 5" mounts in the Somers and Porter classes were very different than those shipped in later DDs and in US BBs. Both the Somers and Porters were designed as destroyer leaders, and configured for surface action. The 5" guns in these were NOT DP - hence the fact that the gun port openings don't extend as high as in later classes. That also explains the somewhat longer barrels on those weapons. One thing that is weird to me are the structures between the 5" barrels and the deck... are those a printing artifact, or were supports sometimes actually used to brace the barrels? Anyone know? BTW - the hull number is badly out of place.... Nanomaquette - I'd be interested in one of these, especially if it were done as the USS Davis (for obvious reasons!).
Not a big thing but the gun houses should be more boxy and defined by edges on it's face plate and crown, also the gun port openings should be much more longer in the vertical direction.
On special request of a collector, I started working on a model of DD SOMERS "as built". Unfortunately my reference material was not the best. My first 3d printed model came out too high. The model itself looks nice but somehow like 1/1100 scale in y-axis. This is due to a wrong plan I used. This is easy to correct and I see no other bad errors but I am in no way an US Navy expert. Do these US Navy experts among you see more errors? It would be helpful for before I start printing more models.