But...we ALL know that the French DID comply with the terms of the Armistice. That is not in dispute. The issue thoughout this discussion has been whether or not Churchill's decision to attack the French at Mers El Keber was justified based upon what was known to him ON July 3, 1940, not upon what is known to us after that date. My own view, and that appears to be Kevin's as well, is that Churchill acted impetuously (he was not known for his patience) and that the attack was a mistake and a failure. And that analysis is not based merely on subsequent events, but based upon what the British knew AT THE TIME, namely, as Kevin has stated, that the Germans lacked the ability to crew all these ships, even IF they could have gotten ahold of them. If Churchill had been wiling to wait, he would have seen within a relatively sort time, that the French battlefleet was not going to the Germans.
: To go in your hypothesis (But just a little!).
: Admiral Darlan which was not a little chief
: was second leader of Pétain in June 40 and
: was father of the big French fleet from
: thirsties. After Kébir he strongly wanted to
: declare war to UK! Just guess what would
: happen to Brits in MED if all French ships
: in north and west Africa (Crossing Gibraltar
: back way that time)(Dont' forget the French
: bombed Gibraltar post Kébir with no problem
: but few destruction effects), plus entire
: fleet of Toulon, plus one can imagine after
: Taranto the Italian fleet running same way
: that Frenchs that time ,this not to German
: dislike to imply more the French in the Axis
: war to fight Britain in Med .
: Almost sure that the Royal Navy would've
: been totally kicked out from Med !
: Fortunately, Pétain kept cold blood to dont'
: compromise recent terms of armistice old of
: 11 days ! The goal wasn't "war to
: war" but economic colonies and policy
: preservation. And to dont' pactize anything
: with hostile Italians not in war ,yet
: ...(They declared war on France only waiting
: it was defeated by Germans ... So, not too
: much risky for them :-) ... Churchill
: escaped to the worst fate that he guessed
: with the mistake of Kébir then eating more
: his hat ...
: But major interest of occupied people
: preservation primed and no need to invenom
: with Alies more than need with the following
: of the war ...
: Despite of all what is said against Pétain,
: he was more calm that Churchill and wasn't
: always so bad leader in all his decisions
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: My point was the most useful ( to the
: ) ships in the French fleet were mostly not
: even attacked, ( exception Dunkerque ), and
: that it was really pretty unrealistic to
: think the Germans could man the ships that
: would have been useful to them, and the
: French would not fight against Britain, and
: finally there was little chance of these
: ships escaping through the Straits of
: Gibraltar anyway.
: Possibly, they could have cause the British
: problems in the Med, but again, it's
: unlikely the Germans could have crewed them.
: But again, I'm glad it wasn't my decision.
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