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Re: Not so catagorical as all that...
Posted by Alain on 9/14/2017, 9:34 am, in reply to "Not so catagorical as all that..."
Agree with you that all ship collisions couldn't be comparable by conditions they imply. To consider competence of seamen and faults of navigation they could've done is one point and regulations by the company is another one. I like you recall about Schettino capt of the COSTA CONCORDIA we speculated a lot 5 years ago . I feared at the time that all charges would be foreesable to retain against him as easier to hide other faults of ship construction and to protect Costa's buiseness interest rather than to give justice to Schettino . That is what is happen 5 years later unfortunately . Indeed we can see that no one bridge officer was condamned ! one sees that schettino was charged of all sort of faults without no trace as far I know of the unbelievable lack of stability and safety in this sort of crise ships with all the weigth in high upperworks and not sufficiently below waterline. Today , we observe that the court against Schettino was the one of the captain but not the one of the Costa company and not the much more important responsibility of the ship dangerous concept! So , with this kind of "official" court and conclusions the public opinion has no else that keep in mind that Schettino got 16 years of jail condamnation because he is "responsible like a Captain" and why ? Because he is "responsible" !!! If that is enough for allbody , nothing on technical failures you talk about in other collisions and why a so mighty cruise ship colapsed and sank in one hour for only a ran agroung on rocks ... Giving 16 years to the captain with no best reasons , I am sorry , but it's not enough for me ...
There is only to see which "brain storming" of commercials Costa Line is doing all along the day on our european tv's to sell their tours at all prices ...
: Kevin Burke plied the seas many times, and he
: would tell me all about captains and other
: officers who simply could not do their jobs.
: This applied to navigation, docking, and
: even loading. Competence depended more on
: the company than any existing regulations
: that officers were supposed to operate by.
: Francesco Schettino's fate reminds us what
: can happen when sea meets shore, as in the
: Costa Concordia. And we see such sad
: collisions on a nearly weekly basis with
: ferry boats. There is no need to overstate
: your case because the record indicates poor
: seamanship is far from rare. In July 2016,
: the sub HMS Ambush collided with a merchant
: ship while surfacing during an exercise
: close to Gibraltar and in 2010 HMS Astute
: ran aground. There is no navy that is immune
: from collisions, and ample examples can be
: found. Add stealth to the equation, and the
: odds go up. Does this excuse poor
: seamanship? No way. Does it happen?
: Relatively rarely considering how many ships
: are on the sea. But regulations alone will
: not force compliance or skill. One cannot
: mandate competence.
: --Previous Message--
: any merchant ship with 100% lack of
: qualifications would be arrested and
: prevented from sailing, and the captain at
: least JAILED!
: --Previous Message--
: Probably not a subject for discussion on
: 1250 model message board. I would not take
: it out on the USN alone. In a collision it
: takes two to tango. Merchant ships also had
: a terrible record lately…..leadership,
: seamanship, design ……
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